Falmouth Energy Week 22-23 June
June 27, 2009
Well, after months of planning it all went off well. All the speakers turned up. No-one got injured. The AV worked. The swine flu pandemic held off.
We had ITV WestCountry News base a feature around the conference and decent local news coverage. Here are some pictures.
- Mark Yeoman welcoming delegates & speakers on behalf of Convergence Cornwall
- Prof Jim Skea (UKERC)
- Prof Jim Skea (UKERC)
- Oliver Tickell (Kyoto2)
- Day One Plenary
- Day One Audience
- Prof Peter Pearson & Malcom Keay in audience
- Prof Pearson on panel
- Nigel Cornwall
- Dominic MacLaine (Editor, New Power)
- Malcom Keay (Oxford Institute for Energy Studies)
- Day One Afternoon Plenary
- Pre-dinner drinks at the National Maritime Museum, Falmouth
- Conference Dinner at the National Maritime Museum, Falmouth
- Dr Joe Szarka (University of Bath)
- Keith MacLean (Scottish & Southern plc)
- Prof Catherine Mitchell (University of Exeter)
- Day Two Plenary Panel
A word to the wise – never be in London when there is a tube strike about to start, things get a bit crazy.
Anyway Day Two of the discussion meeting covered: Hydrogen storage, cerium oxide (for synfuels and hydrogen production), nuclear fission & fusion, more fuel cells, some super-capacitors and a bit of policy.
Interesting stuff that I noted down:
Zuttel
Each kWh provides €25c of full-cycle economic advantage while the current average cost to European consumers is about €5c/kWh.
The oil price spike in 2008 took those prices towards parity meaning, that no net economic advantage was effected by the energy expended, contributing in a large part to the economic crash.
I’d not heard it put in those terms before, and if there is a real and verifiable corelation between delta energy cost/benefit and the occurrence of economic crises, then we have a really powerful preventative tool. My guess is that this relationship is much less clear cut and that the materials scientist who proposed it isn’t fully up to speed on behavioural economics, but that’s only a guess.
Hydrogen carries 39kWh/kg
Recent regulations against the use of asbestos have effectively killed the prospects of using electrolysis of water as a large scale hydrogen production method in Europe. Asbestos was used in industrial electrolysis as a membrane.
Hydrogen storage tanks are now made of a thin blown aluminum shell, wrapped with kevlar or carbon fibre.
Hydrogen storage in metal hydrides can be twice the amount that can be held in tanks as the hydrogen is adsorbed onto the metal hydride in a very densely packed fashion. However, you need one metal hydride per hydrogen, so the storage media gets really heavy, really quickly as the tank size increases. There is an option to combine both hydride and liquid storage to get the best of both worlds.
Even with hydrogen stored in metal hydrides, the energy density is still only half that of gasoline.
Haile talked about ceria (cerium oxide) – a wonderful material apparently (she got her mineral economics all out of whack of course, but was better than most on the resources side).
Full cycle ceria-mediated synfuel production is currently 13% efficient, 23% efficient if you recover 50% of the process heat. The inputs are sunlight, water and CO2 as far as I can tell.
She quoted ceria availability at 40Mt – enough for >50,000 100MWe power plants operating 6hrs a day. Cost $140/MW installed using $20/kg of ceria. She didn’t mention that in Feb 2008 cerium price was $9.50/kg, so I will.
Cerium (for the uninitiated) is the least rare of the Rare Earth Elements (REEs), but that doesn’t mean that is is geologically more readily available than, for instance, lead which has a similar crustal abundance. The geochemistry of REEs means that there are very few deposits rich enough to be mined at a profit. Deposits are generally rich in either ‘light’ REEs or ‘heavy’ REEs, but not both. This limits a mine’s ability to fully service a customer with a mixed REE product, so limits its profitability. There are three main REE deposit types as far as I know; carbonitites (igneous intrusions such as that previously mined at Mountain Pass, California), ionic clays (where the REEs have been adsorbed onto clay minerals from groundwater) and REE-enriched iron ores. These last two are the forms seen in China, which currently provides 95%+ of the world’s REEs. Anyway, yes they may be relatively abundant, but they are not very available.
Grimes showed some nice animations on defect modeling in radiative environments.
Duffy talked on fusion. Apparently the bigger, the better with fusion (less losses through reduced surface area of the plasma per unit volume). ITER should be a net power producer giving up 10x the energy put in (50MW in – 500MW out), but it won’t be set up to extract that energy from the system because that isn’t what its for. It is primarily a materials test lab since the plasma physics is pretty much sorted (they think). The demo plant, to follow in 30 years or so, is sketched out to be a 3,000MW monster producing 50x energy input. First electricity to grid sometime after 2050.
For Paul; the fusion boys are not in the least worried about lithium availability for the tritium breeder jacket because there is ‘loads of it around’. As you know I tend to agree, lithium availability is energy price sensitive and not geologically constrained.
However other elements in the reactor vessel may be resource constrained – beryllium & tungsten specifically and they are looking at these very closely.
Hirose (a bit of a legend apparently, now works for Toyota Fuel Cells division)
The Japanese always have a different angle on things and it was fun to hear the debate between the Japanese view and the Californian when it came to transport availability. Hirose stresses the Quality of Mobility (QoM) and the role of fuel cells in maintaining or extending QoM, whereas Haile warned against generalisations of social conformity in development of scientific solutions. The point was actually raised several times that social science needs to be engaged in progressing societal change and the roll-out of these new technologies. I agree, why else would I be here ?
Toyota’s well to wheel efficiency for fuel cell vehicles using hydrogen is about 40%
Simon on Supercapacitors – ‘supercaps’ in the biz
They are a complimentary technology, not a disruptive one to batteries. They have a short discharge time ~10sec at high power, so have applications in acceleration of mass, quick deployment mechanisms and the like, but the most interesting applications were in energy harvesting from mechanical systems to time-shift that energy back into later acceleration. Effectively its the regenerative braking that is talked about in Formula One.
But you will never run transport just on supercaps, they just make the system more efficient, ~30% more efficient at present. Good news, but not a stand-alone solution.
Foxon was the only speaker to come in under time, brought no new data and was dull. I’m just all-round glad he’s not coming down to speak at our conference
OK, I lied – Report from Royal Society on Energy Materials to Combat Climate Change – Day One
June 8, 2009
I’m at a ‘discussion meeting’ at the Royal Society in London on Energy Materials to Combat Climate Change.
Interesting stuff – sessions today were on lithium batteries, photovoltaics (thin film & dye sensitized) and fuel cells. Its a but more fundamental science than I’d normally get into, lots of talk about membranes, ion migration paths, p & n materials, dopants and multiple junctions. I managed to keep up with most of it, just.
Some interesting comments from the speakers though:
CdTe-based photovoltaics have been ruled out on the basis of tellurium availability and cadmium toxicity, but mainly the tellurium shortage.
Current dye-sensitized module efficiency is 8.2% (that’s including all the connections, conversions, not just a lab measure). Apparently they are the architect’s choice, and I have to say they look really good as the dye doesn’t have to be in simple blocks, so can be made into single or multi-colour ‘stained glass’.
Ruthenium (a common additive in lots of these highest of high-tech energy conversion technologies) is not in short supply and in dye sensitized solar cells would use 0.5t/GW on current designs. Recycling will be necessary somewhere along the line, but not in the first generation.
Substrate materials for thin films are seen as the highest energy portion of the fabrication process.
Organics are the ultimate aim for both thin film and dye-sensitized types, but don’t hold you breath. The Profs were talking 10 years+, probably more like 15 years, before getting these two techs to a truly sustainable form that makes economic sense.
The thermodynamic limit (known as the S-Q limit) for single junction solar cell efficiency is about 30% (probably not news to anyone apart from me). Good commercial silicon cells are running at 12-20% efficiency. Triple junction cells have a theoretical efficiency limit or around 50%.
There is potential to couple dye sensitized with thin film to catch more of the spectrum and up the efficiency, but its never been tried.
CIGS (Copper Indium Germanium Selenium) thin film are the current cutting edge commercial technology (from other sources I’ve heard that the Chinese thin film factories should be starting up any time) – however Indium, Germanium and Selenium are all pretty rare/expensive so work is going down the route of using other metals. The are trying CZTS (Copper Zinc Tin Sulphur) and CBS (Copper Bismuth Sulphur) and getting good results, but again don’t expect anything in the shops for Christmas. This is coming from primary researchers and even these guys are saying 10-15 years at least with a following wind and everything crossed.
The fuel cell guys are singing from the same hymn-sheet. We are at second/third generation cell membrane technology. Focus is on bringing operating temperature down so that the structure around the cell membranes can be made of common(ish) stainless steels rather than exotics.
The encouraging thing from my perspective was that today’s speakers were taking metals availability into account before embarking on extensive programs. They also repeated that its time for social science to take up the reigns for the roll-out of all these new technologies. They even nodded sagely and agreed that metals availability isn’t a simple matter and market and geo-political availability should also be taken into account.
First Thoughts
February 28, 2009
I spent yesterday in lectures with Dr Brenda Boardman. She’s the leading academic light in the UK’s energy consumption/demand reduction field.
To put that in context I should mention that I’m currently studying for a Masters in Energy Policy and Sustainability, led by Prof Catherine Mitchell
Brenda’s talks were interesting, challenging at times, definitely engaging, but ultimately left me a little unsatisfied. She is a self-confessed energy geek and her deep interest came across very strongly, especially where energy supply interacts with social justice. Her interest in energy in terms of climate change came across, to me at least, as a more recent phenomenon. I have no problem with that, science is dynamic, but the implications of energy use in terms of CO2 emissions came across as a bit tacked on. I think I would have preferred that it wasn’t tacked on.
I’m not a ‘deep green’ person. For me energy supply and climate change are real threats to society and culture, but it is the threat to our being in terms of the continuation of society and culture that is the reason why we should take those threats seriously, rather than the threat to some notion of unspoilt nature. Mine is not an argument against taking greenhouse emissions seriously, quite the contrary, it is a recognition that they are of primal interest for the survival of our species, but that societal regression is not an option that should be considered.
I think that the reason why I went away slightly unsatisfied from yesterdays lectures is that it felt as if Dr Boardman was compromising her message of social equity in energy consumption and the difficulties in providing that given the issues of energy supply, by rolling the climate change issue in. You could argue that energy supply and climate change are indivisible, I’d probably agree that they share very many common causes and possible solutions, but if you forget why we want to survive you loose focus in trying to find a solution that works on a planet-wide scale.


















